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Possible Courtenay Travellers - 1841 and 1851 Censuses

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After establishing that we may have some Romany DNA I started looking into how to research in this area in particular from a DNA point of view.  Three key sites of interest included:- The Romany and Traveller Family HistorySociety - joined FTDNA RomanyDNA Project - quite restrictive on who joins FTDNA Celtic Travellers - joined  I also created a resource page at Wikitree - British Romany Resources . It was on the Celtic Travellers site that I found a reference to a list of known surnames.  The Traveller Tinker Gypsy Surname Index of Great Britain  last updated 8/03/2010.  Under the name COURTNEY, two suggestions.  1841 Census St Austell, Cornwall and 1851 Census Scotland.  How these names came to be on this list are unclear.  Needless to say, I've now researched these families to see if they connect to any other Courtney's that have been subjects of interest in the past. 1841 St Austell - Nicholas COURTENAY The reference to the 1841 was actuall...

Could George be of Romany descent?

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NOTE: This post is just a teaser!  I need to document more of the genetic evidence, but this is being written as part of the SAG DNA Blogging Group, so here goes the story so far.... ***** Continuing with my DNA analysis looking for the origins of my maternal 2nd great grandfather - Arthur/George/William Courtney/Courtenay. Many years ago now I discovered my mother had a large X match at GEDmatch with a female from England, it was two segments, totalling approx 92cMs.  This was a very big match and generally a sign of a close relationship.  However, the X chromosome can behave differently to the other autosomes and the relationship could be more distant than it seems. I attempted to contact the match back in 2018 and had no reply.   In 2019, I turned to Facebook sleuthing as she had an unusual surname.  I sent messages to people with that name in England asking if they had tested and could they be the person I matched?  I had a reply from one of them saying...